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2018 NFL Draft (Day 2) -- Group Chat/Commentary (FINAL)

Air Date:
April 27, 2018

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Comments will be grabbed in blocks reading top to bottom within a section, but the latest block will be on top...it will make sense when you see it unfurling. On the chat at any given time: RC, Xavier Cromartie (XC), Ender (END), Myles Crowe (MC) and Jason Katz (Katz). They'll be in close to draft start time. *Friend of CFM Jon from England will joining the chat tonight...midnight his time...til 5am.

Just this page for commentary tonight. No audio coverage as well (too many picks/moving too fast)

Draft Day 2 -- Commentary...

FINAL FOR THE DAY--SEE YOU BACK TOMORROW

RC FISCHER****

Question...after two days of the draft, not the Browns, and good or bad...what jumps to mind about the draft so far

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

yeah I like Okoronkwo but left out

RC FISCHER****

Terrible drafts: The Ravens

ENDER*****

Unless Jackson hits big time I agree

Myles Crowe*****

I thought it was pretty cool that we had 6 running backs go in the top 43 picks.... and it would've been 7 if Guice weren't a F-up.

ENDER*****

Miami was bad

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

I liked the Soyboys picks

ENDER*****

My top 2 other than Cleveland was Broncos and Giants

RC FISCHER****

Denver really is having quite a draft

Myles Crowe*****

Miami was weak all around. Some bad picks. Poor scheme fits. Risky picks.

ENDER*****

At least off memory. I'll look at it closer later

RC FISCHER****

GB got Zaire Alexander and Josh Jackson

ENDER*****

Like Buffalo's 2 non Allen picks

JON*****

Seahawks taking Penny in the first and doing nothing else..

ENDER*****

Still think they should have held their 2nd rounders and just taken Rudolph

RC FISCHER****

The Vikings aren't helping themselves...Mike Huges and Brian O'Neill

Myles Crowe*****

Haven't looked at the individual teams closely enough to comment on their performances.

ENDER*****

I like the Steelers more than anyone else

RC FISCHER****

Jets = Sam Darnold and Nathan Shepherd...how is that their draft right now?

ENDER*****

Patriots got Wynn and Michel

RC FISCHER****

If Barkley is the clear #1.01 in Dynasty Rookie Drafts...who is #1.02 now?

ENDER*****

Baker

ENDER*****

Not that anyone but us would take him

Myles Crowe*****

That's a great question RC. I guess Sony, no?

RC FISCHER****

I dont think Sony is Pats roulette wheel usage

RC FISCHER****

James White and Rex still have their roles

ENDER*****

Didn't mean the Patriots were good picks

RC FISCHER****

Not Chubb. Not Michel. Not Ridley. Not DJ Moore.

Calling it a night and we'll pick back up tomorrow

Post Day 2 comments coming from the group after #100, so hang in if you wish

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

o'daniel made it

ENDER*****

Good call

RC FISCHER****

Love love love O'Daniel

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

we got 83

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Guru 86

RC FISCHER****

4-3 OLB or SAF/LB hybrid

RC FISCHER****

83 is usually pretty strong

ENDER*****

No Okoronkwo that really surprises me

Myles Crowe*****

depends on the scheme RC.

#100 KC selects LB Dorian O'Daniel, Clemson

Myles Crowe*****

I was gonna put Yiadom in b/c I really like him but I didn't think the NFL was gonna put him in.

ENDER*****

Who?

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

just ok

Myles Crowe*****

the BC corner. He smothers the heck out of receivers at the beginning of their routes

RC FISCHER****

I like a Yiadom gamble at this stage

ENDER*****

Over my head there

#99 DEN selects CB Isaac Yiadom, BC

RC FISCHER****

Jordan Akins///98...what a terrible pick

ENDER*****

Houston lost me with that one

Myles Crowe*****

Akins over Herndon? okay.

ENDER*****

or Ian Thomas

Myles Crowe*****

him too

#98 HOU selects TE Jordan Akins, C Florida

#97 ARI selects OC Mason Cole, Michigan

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

about time

Myles Crowe*****

That's not one that Xavier needs. Everyone has Phillips.

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

still a point

ENDER*****

Nice

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

83/96

ENDER*****

Kyle Williams replacement

RC FISCHER****

My 3rd best available was Phillips. I love that guy. It's a shame being great at football is frowned upon sometimes

RC FISCHER****

Just because he doesn't 'look the part'

#96 BUF selects DT Harrison Phillips, Stanford

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

what a pick

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

82/95

RC FISCHER****

You had to be one of the only on that one XC

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Guru had it

ENDER*****

Think Vegas odds were he was the favorite to be the highest drafted non combine invite

Myles Crowe*****

The Southern Miss kid I have a fondness for is Korey Robertson.

#95 SF selects SAF Tarvarius Moore, So Miss

RC FISCHER****

Alex Cappa...dominating DTs from Simon Fraser College...

#94 TB selects OG Alex Cappa, Humbolt

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

ronnie finally

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

what happened there

Myles Crowe*****

.... and Harrison finally goes. I love the Minkah is somehow an elite FS yet he couldn't beat out Harrison for the position.

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

81/93

ENDER*****

Alabama

Myles Crowe*****

He's not a great athlete plain and simple. That defense does a lot to help those defenders who don't always have direct responsibilities to worry about.

RC FISCHER****

Wow, he fell. He can move OK/not great...but something just seemed off with him

#93 JAX selects DB Ronnie Harrison, Alabama

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

we had Chuk

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

80/92

ENDER*****

Like his potential

Myles Crowe*****

Very good chance to hit 84. I think that's a win, maybe not an overall win but a definite win. There's a bunch of players here that a lot of people are also probably missing in.

RC FISCHER****

Not a fan of Chuk -- slow and weak bench press/weak

#92 PIT selects OT Chukwuma Okorafor, W Michigan

RC FISCHER****

Damn, I helped talk XC out of Smith

Myles Crowe*****

I dropped Smith from my top 5 as well after Xavier & END both put him in. Didn't want to duplicate everyone's picks but I love the kid as a sleeper.

RC FISCHER****

Update the count after every pick for folks to follow along. We're at 79 right now?

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

still waiting Hurst, Phillips, Crosby, Harrison, T Moore, Averett, Hand

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

79/91

RC FISCHER****

85 is a good place normally, right

RC FISCHER****

80+ isnt bad

#91 NO selects WR Tre'Quan Smith, UCF

Myles Crowe*****

Tim Settle here? Then need to beef up against the run.

ENDER*****

Settle workout hurting him

ENDER*****

He was a guy I thought about as a not top 100

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

every DL going while Hurst and Phillips sit there

Myles Crowe*****

I picked 10 to put into the top 100....... I'm up to 5 correct now.

ENDER*****

Only top 5 count Myles ;)

RC FISCHER****

Senate good, but watch that Bruce Hector from So Florida -- he played 3-4 DE when he was really a 4-3 DT. Hector is one of my top steals of draft/UDFA

#90 ATL selects DT Deadrin Senat, So Florida

ENDER*****

Where's my Burks haters?

Myles Crowe*****

I wanted to put Burks into the top 100 but there was no damn tape on him so I couldn't.

AVIER CROMARTIE****

athlete/special teams

RC FISCHER****

That Rose dude on NFL Network = the single worst person on football on the planet earth

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Noteboom over Crosby? What is this

ENDER*****

Oh yeah heard teams liked Noteboom

ENDER*****

But not until like the night before the draft

RC FISCHER****

I like Noteboom a lot

Myles Crowe*****

the little bit that I saw of Burks reminded me a lot of Kevin Pierre-Louis, but maybe less of a playmaker

ENDER*****

Noteboom replaces better Orlando Brown at RT

#89 LAR selects OT Joseph Noteboom, TCU

#88 CAR selects LB Oren Burks, Vandy

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

where my KEY HATERS

Myles Crowe*****

Arden Key is such a mess.

ENDER*****

Doesn't matter someone was going to gamble

Myles Crowe*****

THey should've gambled on Day 3.

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Actually I agree he's trash

RC FISCHER****

I do not like Arden Key at all

RC FISCHER****

XC count?

Myles Crowe*****

His game tape is really far behind. You're probably developing him for his 2nd team.

Myles Crowe*****

/2nd contract

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Tied with Guru in top 100 currently

RC FISCHER****

4.88 at pro day...4.9+ then at 236 pounds

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

don't know anyone else

RC FISCHER****

how many strikes

ENDER*****

Okoronkwo for GB?

#87 OAK selects OLB Arden Key, LSU

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

where my GAULDEN HATERS

ENDER*****

Hahahaha

Myles Crowe*****

Not a Gaulden Fan. Kinda like Mayock alluded- he's somewhat a man w/o a position.

ENDER*****

OH! Okoronkwo!

RC FISCHER****

Would Rams take Andrew Brown XC as a 3-4 DE?

JON*****

Rams have traded out of the 3rd

ENDER*****

HOW MANY TE'S DO THE RAVENS NEED??

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Brown is a 5T

RC FISCHER****

move

Myles Crowe*****

Sure. I would.

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

we had Andrews

RC FISCHER****

The quintessential Ravens pick -- a TE that cannot block and was made to look good by Mayfield

ENDER*****

Ozzie can't retire fast enough

Myles Crowe*****

I was worried that Andrews was more Gavin Escobar 2.0

RC FISCHER****

Jordan Leggett 2.0

#86 BAL selects TE Mark Andrews, Oklahoma

#85 CAR selects CB Rashaun Golden, Tennessee

JON*****

Rams coming up soon, what are you wanting for them RC?

Myles Crowe*****

plus he has like no time spent coming out of a 3 pt stance. That's a big deal for NFL linemen coming out of college and why so many spread linemen fail.

ENDER*****

Orlando Brown is Rob Havenstein but worse

RC FISCHER****

XC -- we're to the countdown phase..after every pick can you update our score?

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

missed 7

RC FISCHER****

Best Line of chat 2018: Orlando Brown is Rob Havenstein but worse

RC FISCHER****

Rams...me...too early but Jaylen Samuels to be their Jordan Reed not Gerald Everett

ENDER*****

Need edge badly

ENDER*****

Rams

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

missed 8

ENDER*****

There's the DT for chargers

Myles Crowe*****

No kidding, END. Who's getting after the QB from the outside?

RC FISCHER****

Josh Sweat for the Rams?

#84 LAC selects DT Justin Jones, NC State

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

knew it was Brown

ENDER*****

Had to be the Ravens

RC FISCHER****

Brown mega-bust

RC FISCHER****

as a tackle

RC FISCHER****

maybe OK at guard

Myles Crowe*****

IDK, I think he's too upright to be a guard.

RC FISCHER****

DLs are too athletic to bank on his reach winning the day

#83 BAL selects OT Orlando Brown, Oklahoma

RC FISCHER****

Just think WRs...he wont go today but I really am starting to believe Allen Lazard could be a Day 3 steal for some team. I mean -- like he's a possible #1 for a team, a physical Mike Evans-like guy maybe a step behind

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

he's ok

RC FISCHER****

I also think DaeSean Hamilton may be a lot better than I gave credit

JON*****

You think Dallas have him on their radar?

JON*****

Lazard I mean

RC FISCHER****

Like guys that should be top 40-60 pick guys but obviously arent to the NFL

ENDER*****

Dallas next two picks are a DT and a pass catching RB

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Lions maybe Ronnie Harrison?

RC FISCHER****

The best WRs usually come after the 1st round lately anyway

Myles Crowe*****

Well just think.... a few years ago Brian Hartline went in the 4th and Patrick Turner in the 3rd...... and Mohammad Massoquoi & Brian Robiskie in the 2nd. The talent at WR has come a long way.

ENDER*****

Don't think it's safety for Detroit

RC FISCHER****

Passing games in grade school and high school -- these kids are a million reps ahead of guys 10+ years ago

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

uhh

ENDER*****

Or I could be totally wrong lol

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Who is Tracy Walker

Myles Crowe*****

Eq St Brown needs to go soon. A few years from now people are going to be wondering how the heck he lasted until the 3rd or whatever.

RC FISCHER****

I like Trey Walker...but not that early

#82 DET selects SAF Tracy Walker, Louisiana

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

GALLUP!!

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

where my Gallup haters

ENDER*****

Ok I can get behind that

RC FISCHER****

I'm on board with Gallup as better than Davante Adams possibly

#81 DAL selects WR Michael Gallup, Colorado State

#80 HOU selects Martinas Rankins, Miss State

ENDER*****

Shaw alert

ENDER*****

Shaq*

Myles Crowe*****

THey'll be using Rasheem inside on passing downs

ENDER*****

Does he block for Russell? No? Who cares

Myles Crowe*****

LOL

ENDER*****

When is Russell a FA?

#79 SEA selects DE Rasheem Green, USC

RC FISCHER****

PITT takes Rudolph + Washington

ENDER*****

Avery is only 19?

Myles Crowe*****

is he?

ENDER*****

According to google

Myles Crowe*****

Kinda pointless to select pass rushers at this point unless they're high upside developmental kids.

ENDER*****

I like Hubbard screw you guys

Myles Crowe*****

LOL

ENDER*****

Yup there's the Texas LB lol

RC FISCHER****

I like Hubbard as a mid draft pick not a top 30 as he was initially pushed

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Hubbard is a fraud

RC FISCHER****

Those are two pretty solid value picks

Myles Crowe*****

with the assist from you END.

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Malik is solid

ENDER*****

Hubbard reminds me of Trey Flowers

RC FISCHER****

Hubbard can play in the league...he's just not a star/starter great option

#78 CIN selects LB Malik Jefferson, Texas

#77 CIN selects DE Sam Hubbard, Ohio State

RC FISCHER****

Finally...now the Steelers have a future plan

RC FISCHER****

at QB

JON*****

Rudolph

Myles Crowe*****

Hurst = 5th year guy at 290 lbs with 27th percentile Sparq who's supposed to be winning on great athleticism for the archetype he belongs to

ENDER*****

69 picks after Josh Allen

ENDER*****

Oh I know Myles that's why I had him as my top guy to fall out of the top 100

ENDER*****

But PFF thinks he was the 3rd best player in the draft

RC FISCHER****

Hurst...another reason not to trust PFF grades

Myles Crowe*****

hahaha

ENDER*****

Any big LB's available for Cincy?

Myles Crowe*****

the Texas kid

RC FISCHER****

I would love Rankin to Cincy for Mixon

Myles Crowe*****

My LB sleeper is Genard Avery. He probably won't go until tomorrow but he's an absolute joy to watch on film. Would've already been drafted if he'd been an off-the-ball LB at Memphis.

RC FISCHER****

PITT takes Rudolph + Washington

ENDER*****

Avery is only 19?

#76 PIT selects QB Mason Rudolph, Oklahoma State

#75 KC selects DT Derrick Nnadi, Florida State

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

they got Payne

ENDER*****

Eh

Myles Crowe*****

time to put the clock on Shaq Griffin.

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

nnadi is so annoying

ENDER*****

Seattle coming up for Shaq

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

I hope so

RC FISCHER****

I'd take either So Florida DT over Nnadi

ENDER*****

Settle and Hurst still on the board

#74 WAS selects OT Geron Christian, Louisville

Myles Crowe*****

How much of his tape is b/c he's physically advantaged over these younger kids?

RC FISCHER****

Miami stops the draft bleeding here with Mason Rudolph

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Luke Falk

RC FISCHER****

That would be fine too

ENDER*****

RC my only worry with Denver is...Case Keenum. They gave away Sloter. If they could trade up here for Rudolph they win but Kubiak wants a more mobile guy

Myles Crowe*****

Screw you Xavier!

ENDER*****

Heard Miami likes Falk...

Myles Crowe*****

and you too END

RC FISCHER****

Falk has all the Brady signs...down to the 'weak arm'

ENDER*****

;) I don't think he will. Weak arm

ENDER*****

Bradys arm was average. Falk's is weak

RC FISCHER****

Yeah, Denver needs a QB...and a head coach...but they are killing it in this draft. They are taking talent and not worrying so much on immediate need

Myles Crowe*****

I might've preferred Settle over Shepherd but I won't complain.

ENDER*****

I like Falk don't get me wrong. I just think he's more Chad Pennington without the injuries than Brady

Myles Crowe*****

Two words about Falk ---- Mike Leach.

ENDER*****

My favorite coach

RC FISCHER****

Then you don;'t like Pat Mahomes or Davis Webb or Jared Goff...they all played similar offenses

Myles Crowe*****

time to see how Miami can disappoint me yet again.

Myles Crowe*****

but they had talent

RC FISCHER****

Yeah, all these Washington State guys getting drafted...

Myles Crowe*****

Wow, Miami must be changing their scheme b/c Jerome Baker totally doesn't fit it.

ENDER*****

Neither does Minkah

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

what to do with Kiko

ENDER*****

Trade him to UCLA

RC FISCHER****

Jerome Baker -- another great athlete with suspect results and tape

ENDER*****

Or is it Cal?

Myles Crowe*****

Miami OLB's need to be able to stick their nose into a gap and take on linemen. Kiko doesn't fit in that wide-9 scheme for the same reasons. He needs to flow unencumbered. Cant do that in a wide-9.

ENDER*****

Washington doesn't care about their atrocious run defense

#73 MIA selects LB Jerome Baker, Ohio State

ENDER*****

Denver quietly got 3 really good players

RC FISCHER****

I love that Lee Greenwood song

RC FISCHER****

Oh, crap -- Denver is killing it!!! Rabbitt, have faith!!

Myles Crowe*****

I really like Shepherd but I'm always worried about 25 year old rookie DTs

#72 NYJ selects DT Nathan Shepherd, Fort Hays State

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Royce

RC FISCHER****

I'm a big fan of his value in the 3rd

ENDER*****

Thought he might drop but I love him

Myles Crowe*****

I could see Miami taking Lauletta or Rudolph if they don't go LB. The LB I love is Genard Avery.

RC FISCHER****

Finally, something exciting for Fantasy!! Freeman in Denver

#71 DEN selects RB Royce Freeman, Oregon

#70 SF selects LB Fred Warner, BYU

Nice value pick.

ENDER*****

Solid Giants draft

RC FISCHER****

My best Available: Mason Rudolph, Luke Falk, Dorian O'Daniel, Harrison Phillips, Martinas Rankins

#69 NYG selects DT B.J. Hill, NC State

Myles Crowe*****

I didn't think he was the same athlete that his brother was.

RC FISCHER****

The Texans are trying to get good this offseason

ENDER*****

Any chance Reid fell because of his brother?

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

isn't Mathieu the FS

RC FISCHER****

Reid is solid, not all-pro or anything. Useful for when Mathieu gets suspended or cut

ENDER*****

Mathieu could be slot corner

#68 HOU selects SAF Justin Reid, Stanford

Myles Crowe*****

Carter was hurt by being such a great athlete. Had he spent most of his time doing one or the other- either pass rushing or true LB duties- I think he's a top 20 pick.

ENDER*****

Your guy RC

RC FISCHER****

Chad Thomas -- Boy he looks great...except his measurables are terrible and his tape is a waste and no production

ENDER*****

Yeah I'm with Myles I love Carter

RC FISCHER****

But looks good off the bus...which is the worst cliche in football

#67 CLE selects DE Chad Thomas, Miami

RC FISCHER****

Did that Rose on NFL network just say NYG might find a QB for behind Eli here...like they did last year? Did that just happen?

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Bruce Campbell

Myles Crowe*****

well, wasn't the best season for Derek Carr last year. They gotta protect his future.

ENDER*****

That's the one

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Ravens Orlando Brown

Myles Crowe*****

I wish he went to Clemson

ENDER*****

Damn this Giants draft....

RC FISCHER****

I'm not a Carter guy but I get the upside hope

#66 NYG selects LB Lorenzo Carter, Georgia

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

what are they doing

ENDER*****

Who?

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

right tackle

RC FISCHER****

Big Slow small school LT

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

chuckie can't draft

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

miller r1, hall r2, parker r3

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

all 3 rounds early

Myles Crowe*****

I'm up to 2 into XC's Top 100 now.

RC FISCHER****

They just said OL Coach Tom Cable makes this work...YES, he was a gem for Seattle the past few years.

ENDER*****

Tom Cable is the Norv Turner of offensive line coaches

RC FISCHER****

Reggie McKenzie may have fallen asleep and just woke up thinking it's the 5th round

ENDER*****

What was he sleeping in the 1st round too?

RC FISCHER****

They may nudge him awake for him to make his picks

#65 OAK selects OT Brandon Parker, NC A&T

3rd Round Starts====================

ENDER*****

Oren Burks for Indy

ENDER*****

or Warner

Myles Crowe*****

Good player!

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

another EDGE

Myles Crowe*****

could be a better pro than college player. Great size paired with nice measurables

ENDER*****

Over Hubbard??

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

athlete

Myles Crowe*****

I like him more than Hubbard. He's very underrated. He's like a 85% spark guy and you can see it on tape

ENDER*****

Ballard is taking too many athletes and hoping they can play football

RC FISCHER****

Tyquan Lewis = 11 games, 12 solo tackles in 2017

*END of 2nd*===============================

#64 IND selects DE Tyquan Lewis, Ohio State

Myles Crowe*****

I didn't have justin Reid in the first 2 rounds.

ENDER*****

Yup thought they might take Davis last time they were up

RC FISCHER****

Didn't like Davis's tape and don't like his measurables profile besides 'big'

#63 TB selects CB Carlton Davis, Auburn

RC FISCHER****

Oh, Brian O'Neill...terrible tape

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Bucs again, OL or S

ENDER*****

Maybe corner

RC FISCHER****

When your claim to fame as an OL is 'ran for a TD a couple times'...not good

#62 MIN selects OL Brian O'Neill, Pitt

Myles Crowe*****

I don't think it was. I thought Chark had the better long speed AND the size to go with it.

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

it was measured at the Senior Bowl

RC FISCHER****

I liked Washington's work short...good routes and cuts. Wasn't as impressed with him deep but I think he could be a better WR than 'on paper WR' for me

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Washington and Tre'Quan both higher top speed than Chark

Myles Crowe*****

Yet Chark was the one getting by guys at the Senior Bowl, meanwhile Washington was getting smothered by Siran Neal.

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

here's your Chark Attack

ENDER*****

How many receivers do they need?

RC FISCHER****

I swear, I don't understand what NFL teams are thinking. Does JAX really need a WR

RC FISCHER****

Why waste time and money on Moncrief and Lee

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Moncrief 1-year deal

RC FISCHER****

I like Chark, it's not on Chark -- this KILLS Chark's FF value. This whole draft SUCKSSSSSS for dynasty rookie draft prospects not named Saquon

#61 JAC selects WR D.J. Chark, LSU

ENDER*****

Good spot for Washington though. He can just run deep and will average 20+ yds a catch

XAVIER CROMARTIE**** has joined the room.

RC FISCHER****

He can run deep all he wants...he's not fast enough to get open. He's a possession WR

Myles Crowe*****

James Washington is NOT going to scare NFL defenses deep, nor draw coverage away from Antonio Brown.... and what if he isn't cut out for the perimeter?.... now you've got he and JuJu in the slot.

ENDER*****

If Jax doesn't take Rudolph....

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Washington's top speed is higher than Chark's. Not 40 time, but top speed.

RC FISCHER****

JAX will prob take another D-Lineman that they don;t need

Myles Crowe*****

I don't think it was. I thought Chark had the better long speed AND the size to go with it.

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

it was measured at the Senior Bowl

RC FISCHER****

I liked Washington's work short...good routes and cuts. Wasn't as impressed with him deep but I think he could be a better WR than 'on paper WR' for me

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Washington and Tre'Quan both higher top speed than Chark

====================

ENDER*****

Warner?

RC FISCHER****

Mason Rudolph chatter for PITT

ENDER*****

Ohh could be

ENDER*****

Wtf

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

right... traded Martav

Myles Crowe*****

So where's the height guy in this corps now?

RC FISCHER****

Just what PIT needed...a solid, slower WR. Josh Dobbs is a fine future plan

#60 PIT selects WR James Washington, Oklahoma State

ENDER*****

Guice or Hall for Washington

Myles Crowe*****

good call END

ENDER*****

Thanks. Pretty sure everyone knew that was coming

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

good night Samaje

RC FISCHER****

Ok...stock up for Samaje Perine. Stock down how much Doug Williams sucks at running a football team. The Redskins are a joke and deserve the collapse coming. Sean McVay was the only thing they had a few years ago and now that he's gone everything is getting exposed. This team blows.

RC FISCHER****

Derrius Guice will be in jail by 2019

Myles Crowe*****

what does Guice become though if he ever decides he can no longer stylistically run like he's got a tarantula hawk loose in his jersey?

#59 WAS selects RB Derrius Guice, LSU

RC FISCHER****:

Boy, Guice getting slammed

ENDER*****

Washington takes Guice next

Myles Crowe*****

time to select a bulldog

ENDER*****

Vick or the Falcons? Don't think Vick is allowed to be around to dogs

RC FISCHER****

Great value, smart pick

ENDER*****

Surprised Oliver fell so low

#58 ATL selects CB Isaiah Oliver, Colorado

Great value pick

ENDER*****

DT

RC FISCHER****

Open Mic night is going well at the NFL Draft...

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

2nd round

RC FISCHER****

PJ Hall!!! Wow. Amazing 40-time...terrible agility times

ENDER*****

My top not in the 100 guy

RC FISCHER****

He could be a major grab

Myles Crowe*****

i was gonna put him in my not in the top 100 but backed out after you and Xavier already mentioned him.

RC FISCHER****

First top 100 miss?

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

2

#57 OAK selects DT P.J. Hall, Sam Houston State

Could be one of the steals of the draft

ENDER*****

Carter? All Georgia players for Bill

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

and WR

Myles Crowe*****

...and still need a LG.

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Thuney?

Myles Crowe*****

Sorry I meant for Carolina

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

QB

RC FISCHER****

Mason ?

Myles Crowe*****

waits for an off the wall pick by Belichick here

Myles Crowe*****

love Duke Dawson

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

first miss

Myles Crowe*****

I think he could transition to FS nicely if they ever want him there.

RC FISCHER****

Duke doesn't do much for me. He's OK. He might be nice in the slot.

#56 NE selects CB Duke Dawson, Florida

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Reid or Carlton

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

or my boy

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

man he's tiny but he's good

ENDER*****

What is it with them and tiny corners?

Myles Crowe*****

I'll take a slot guy higher when they're explosive like this.... but not so much for MJ Stewart.

RC FISCHER****

Ok, they just said he's like Z Alexander but doesnt have the coverage or ball skills -- so what the hell are the Panthers drafting then?

ENDER*****

He's fast

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

he's great just small

#55 CAR selects CB Donte Jackson, LSU

Myles Crowe*****

How many of you don't have Mixon in dynasty?

ENDER*****

Who let the drunk Bengals fan in the building?

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

I don't get Bates

ENDER*****

We ALL have Mixon

ENDER*****

Bates is wonderful at having INTs fall in his lap

Myles Crowe*****

Bates has great feet.

JON*****

There's one guy stubbornly holding onto Mixon in one of my leagues

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

cut Kirkpatrick put Bates SCB?

RC FISCHER****

I like Bates well enough

ENDER*****

Reid to Car

RC FISCHER****

Not wow'd but Bates is OK

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

I don't get Bates

ENDER*****

We ALL have Mixon

ENDER*****

Bates is wonderful at having INTs fall in his lap

Myles Crowe*****

Bates has great feet.

#54 CIN selects SAF Jessie Bates, Wake Forest

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Bucs CB?

Myles Crowe*****

yup... but i wasn't sure how seriously to take it since Roquan was dinged as well.

RC FISCHER****

Can I ask -- who the hell is going to that Farmer's building of insurance accidents? Why would you go visit and walk around with J.K. while he spins insurance yarns?

ENDER*****

CB or S to TB?

ENDER*****

Carlton Davis my guess

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

ahahahahaah

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

where my MJ haters?

Myles Crowe*****

Nice job, Xavier. I wasn't a fan of his tape.

ENDER*****

RIght here lol

RC FISCHER****

XC rolling!!

ENDER*****

I decided not to pick against you on that one but I wasn't a fan

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

he was the toughest call but I had to get him in

ENDER*****

Bengals QB?

ENDER*****

Doubt it but possible

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

pick nothing but OL

RC FISCHER****

All ACC Honorable Mention CB...yay...

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

all draft

#53 TB selects CB M.J. Stewart, UNC

Not worth a #53 to me...just 'a guy'

ENDER*****

Chark to Indy?

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Colts never got a RB or WR

ENDER*****

WR CB RB

Myles Crowe*****

Something must really be wrong with Lorenzo Carter's health. that's a bummer man.

#52 IND selects LB Kemoko Turay, Rutgers

Looks good...but not much else to show for it besides 'looks the part'.

RC FISCHER****

They get Oliver and CHI is taking a step forward this draft

Myles Crowe*****

Chark needs to go

Myles Crowe*****

or..... Eq

RC FISCHER****

TO bad the Bears didnt give away a #1-2 WR for free a few weeks ago

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

ahahah

RC FISCHER****

And then 'poof' a wasted pick

ENDER*****

Whew

ENDER*****

Bucky Brooks grade....B

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

let Meredith walk and then trade up in 2nd

RC FISCHER****

It takes you like 3-4 game tapes to see Miller is not a legit NFL WR

Myles Crowe*****

I LOVED MIller during the regular season watching live games..... but liked him much less than that when going back to the film.

#51 CHI selects WR Anthony Miller, Chicago

ENDER*****

McCray has to try and save this in the late picks

Myles Crowe*****

I thought his 2016 tape reminded me of Zack Martin's.

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

LVE and Connor aren't bad picks

ENDER*****

Arden Key for Chicago?

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

EDGE or CB

RC FISCHER****

Connor Williams is OK but was Dallas an OL away is what is making me scratch my head

ENDER*****

Oh this is Oliver

Myles Crowe*****

how 'bout a WR here?

ENDER*****

The Colorado coach is good buddies with Fangio

================

ENDER*****

He's a guard. Collins is staying at RT

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

who's LG and who's RT

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

they have Cam Fleming too

RC FISCHER****

I need more time to digest all the draft but I believe Dallas was on the fence of building something to challenge the top teams and they have put a dagger into their own heart this offseason

ENDER*****

Cam is a backup right now

Myles Crowe*****

I'd keep Williams on the left side, so guard.

RC FISCHER****

The blown opportunity for Dallas...frightening

#50 DAL selects OG Connor Williams, Texas

What Dallas is doing, I have no idea.

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

jumped ahead of the Soyboys

JON*****

Holy ****

ENDER*****

Bucky Brooks gives out another B

JON*****

I own all the Ertz shares......

RC FISCHER****

I officially hate the dynasty rookie draft now after 1.01

Myles Crowe*****

I'm not far behind RC.

RC FISCHER****

Dallas not getting Sutton and Goedert -- whoever reading who thinks I run the Cowboys secretly...ummm, no.

Myles Crowe*****

I've got a pair of 1's and a pair of 2's.... and I might be pushing half of those forward to 2019

ENDER*****

DT or WR for Cowboys

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Hurst would be good

#49 PHI selects TE Dallas Goedert, So Dakota State

RC FISCHER****

Did Jatavis Brown kick Anthony Lynn in the nuts when they first met?

Myles Crowe*****

Does Guice finally go?

ENDER*****

He would have had to kick Melvin Gordon in the head

JON*****

What about Freeman here

RC FISCHER****

Let me sum up my 2nd round draft thoughts -- WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU PEOPLE DOING??? except TEN, CHI, GB

#48 LAC selects LB Uchenna Nwosu, USC

#47 ARI selects WR Christian Kirk, Texas A&M

Myles Crowe*****

Wow, they've got a handful of guys who can play the slot but nothing really set at outside WR moving forward.

ENDER*****

But but Chad Williams

RC FISCHER****

I really like Kirk as a professional WR

ENDER*****

Chargers Hall or Hill?

JON*****

With Larry in the slot though they're gonna move him around

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Rudolph?

RC FISCHER****

Larry done after this year

JON*****

Kirk was my favourite pure receiving talent in this draft

#46 KC selects LB Breeland Speaks, Ole Miss

I don't like Speaks as an OLB or a DE. Not at #46 for sure.

RC FISCHER****

KC doesnt need a corner, do they?

ENDER*****

That's what I heard they wanted to trade up for

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

they have Fuller and Amerson

RC FISCHER****

They need an LB or DL??

ENDER*****

Since they shipped Peters

Myles Crowe*****

Oliver fits.

RC FISCHER****

But got Fuller and Amerson...not that they cant go CB but an ILB would help them stop the run game bleeding

Myles Crowe*****

or give Kareem Hunt... .Connor Williams?

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

OL also in play

Myles Crowe*****

That interior line isn't the prettiest in KC.

==============

Myles Crowe*****

they traded up for that?

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

yall said Pettis was out

RC FISCHER****

Kudos XC...you had Pettis, right?

ENDER*****

Duh fu.....

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

I did

ENDER*****

This is why Xavier does the top 100

RC FISCHER****

Pettis for the return game?

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

yes

RC FISCHER****

Develop Pettis for 2019-2020 but use for returns now, I get it.

Myles Crowe*****

Reminds me of San Fran taking AJ Jenkins at 30.

JON*****

Pettis literally runs like the Iron Giant

JON*****

Is it worth taking a return man so early?

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

oh of course. now they take him.

ENDER*****

Should have taken Jackson in the 1st

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

two years in a row

ENDER*****

How many corners are you guys going to draft

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

last year I gave them Kevin King in round 1 and got no credit for it

#45 GB selects CB Josh Jackson, Iowa

You have to love this pick and the value of it. Wow.

Myles Crowe*****

LOL that Dallas used a 43 pick on a running back despite Elliot and an O-line that can create holes for most decent backs.

Myles Crowe*****

especially a 43 on Kerryon

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Detroit bro

JON*****

Redskins taking a running back

JON*****

Perine's concrete boots are just drying

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Guice and Freeman are the only ones left

ENDER*****

49ers Josh Jackson?

Myles Crowe*****

More like Carryoff Johnson.

RC FISCHER****

Nate Burleson is that you?

ENDER*****

Hmm I wonder if Detroit hasn't a a 100 yd runner because they keep pushing Ameer Abdullah....

RC FISCHER****

Or is that Vince Young's pronunciation?

ENDER*****

49ers Josh Jackson?

Myles Crowe*****

More like Carryoff Johnson.

RC FISCHER****

Nate Burleson is that you?

ENDER*****

Hmm I wonder if Detroit hasn't a a 100 yd runner because they keep pushing Ameer Abdullah....

RC FISCHER****

Or is that Vince Young's pronunciation?

Myles Crowe*****

lmao!!

Myles Crowe*****

they traded up for that?

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

yall said Pettis was out

RC FISCHER****

Kudos XC...you had Pettis, right?

ENDER*****

Duh fu.....

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

I did

ENDER*****

This is why Xavier does the top 100

RC FISCHER****

Pettis for the return game?

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

yes

RC FISCHER****

Develop Pettis for 2019-2020 but use for returns now, I get it.

#44 SF selects WR Dante Pettis, Washington

This is OK for return game and then development as a WR

RC FISCHER****

Nice volleyball...he's going to SET up Gase getting fired

ENDER*****

SERVE him up on a platter

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Gase's head on a SPIKE

JON*****

Terry Bradshaw and Jim Kelly had 15 on the Wonderlic

Myles Crowe*****

Yeah, he's such a great athlete that he couldn't get any decent basketball offer despite being able to jump out of the gym and run 4.5. NO WHERE NEAR a real athlete like Jimmy Graham who could actually play D1 basketball.

ENDER*****

This is Hubbard right?

JON*****

Is he this year's George Kittle?

Myles Crowe*****

how 'bout a banana in his mouth pipe?

RC FISCHER****

Nate Burleson will be here all week...

RC FISCHER****

tip your waitresses

JON*****

unimpressive college tape but is a better pro than college player due to the measurables?

ENDER*****

If the jokes are aside why are you still talking?

Myles Crowe*****

a kicker

RC FISCHER****

Great pitch for how unfunny and uninteresting Good Morning Football is

Myles Crowe*****

LOL

ENDER*****

What is Burleson selling?

ENDER*****

Wow

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

where my Kerryon haters?

Myles Crowe*****

here

ENDER*****

Right here Xavier :)

RC FISCHER****

Burleson polling at 27% for 2020 Presidential Race

JON*****

The Dwayne Washington dream is alive and well

RC FISCHER****

Kerryon Johnson sucks more than any top 10 mainstream ranked RB

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

He thinks Detroit is hard-working, kek

#43 DET selects RB Kerryon Johnson, Auburn

The Dwayne Washington and Zach Zenner dream lives on!!!

Myles Crowe*****

Are you kidding me? I'm on a roll here. Another guy I couldn't stand.

ENDER*****

Hahahhahahahahaha

RC FISCHER****

And Dallas Goedert still available

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

VOLLEYBALL

ENDER*****

Myles you better poor a triple shot tonight!

Myles Crowe*****

lmao. I already came prepared.

RC FISCHER****

Miami is having a terrible draft...Adam Gase is done after this year along with the GM

ENDER*****

Omg the people they compare Gesicki to! Graham and Engram

Myles Crowe*****

Terrible body control. No precise movements.... and I mentioned how the stride length messes with his route running on things other than verticals.

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

he played volleyball though

RC FISCHER****

I never saw a moment where Gesicki's tape matched anything near his Combine

Myles Crowe*****

and oh yeah..... he couldn't block a grocery cart.

#42 MIA selects Mike Gesicki, Penn State

Ridiculous pick with Dallas Goedert available.

JON*****

There goes Landry

ENDER*****

There's that Vince Young 8 Wonderlic

RC FISCHER****

I'm trying to locate my grade on Honor Landry

ENDER*****

How is Honor even close to Harold?

JON*****

9.988

RC FISCHER****

That's VY's passer rating

JON*****

hahaha

#41 TEN selects LB Harold Landry, BC

Great pick here, one of my top 5 players for this draft...at #41

Myles Crowe*****:

Hubbard doesn't excite me. If I can't get a pass rusher in R1, then I want a high upside guy like a Danielle Hunter or Everson Griffen later.

KATZ*****:

Vince Young can't read

ENDER*****:

Job Robinson likes safe players

KATZ*****:

But it's Harold Landry

Myles Crowe*****:

How do you mispronounce "Harold"?

=======================

RC FISCHER****

What the hell is Dallas doing?

KATZ*****

Wasting all the years they have Dak and Zeke cheap

Myles Crowe*****

I would Jon.

KATZ*****

Think about this

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Dallas Goedert to Dallas maybe

KATZ*****

The Cowboys' last two QBs were a 4th rounder and a UDFA

KATZ*****

Yet they've had cap issues for the better part of a decade

ENDER*****

And an affinity for injured LB's

KATZ*****

I hate this team

Myles Crowe*****

Tough for Las Vegas to pass on one of the 2 CBs here.

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Raiders LB, CB, WR

KATZ*****

Raiders traded the pick

Myles Crowe*****

trade?

KATZ*****

Titans

ENDER*****

Titans coming up for Landry

RC FISCHER****

Sam Hubbard

ENDER*****

or Hubbard

=================

ENDER*****

Nooooooooo

KATZ*****

The Cowboys are seriously going to enter this season with Allen Hurns and Deonte Thompson as their top 2 WRs

KATZ*****

That's a real thing that's gonna happen

Myles Crowe*****

don't you love it when you're dynasty hopefuls go to teams/situations you absolutely didn't want?!

KATZ*****

Can I send it in on the Cowboys win total under right now?

KATZ*****

Sutton now has ZERO value in 2018

KATZ*****

But Manny is gone after this season and Demaryius doesn't have much left so Sutton has long term potential as long as Denver gets a long term QB

ENDER*****

Is it too late for Broncos to bring back Sloter?

JON*****

So you pass on him in the rookie draft and acquire him mid to late season

RC FISCHER****

What the hell is Dallas doing?

#40 DEN selects WR Courtland Sutton, SMU

This hurts his FF value A LOT. Unreal.

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

whitehair can move to G

Myles Crowe*****

and apparently Guice poutingly ditched the draft last night after not being selected.

ENDER*****

Yeah it's confirmed he left

RC FISCHER****

Boy, the Bears O-Line to go with the weapons...what a green light for fantasy

Myles Crowe*****

either way it's some nice Center-Guard flexibility.

KATZ*****

I love Trubisky this year as my late round QB

KATZ*****

I love ARob this year

KATZ*****

I love Trey Burton, obviously

RC FISCHER****

You cannot not seriously take Ronald Jones #38 in an NFL draft in this era...it's stupid on top of stupid

Myles Crowe*****

Trying to decide if it's smart for me to flip Tarik Cohen for a future 1st as soon as he has a few good game or hold him.

RC FISCHER****

Sorry, I'm furious at what has happened before Daniels pick. What a waste of an opportunity at what the draft is for.

ENDER*****

Ronald Jones not good for wins but could be good for fantasy

KATZ*****

I'm with RC tonight

JON*****

I think Tarik is going to be a legit fantasy contributor

KATZ*****

Yeah I like Ronald for fantasy

RC FISCHER****

Ronald Jones and Nick Chubb this high on those teams is like taking a high draft pick and setting it on fire.

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Broncos can get Josh Jackson

KATZ*****

I might like him more than Sony Michel

Myles Crowe*****

What happened before Daniels' pick?

KATZ*****

The Bucs have no real competition

KATZ*****

Payton Barber? Get out of here

Myles Crowe*****

I like Jones more than Sony in PPR.... but Sony more in 0 or 1/2 pt.

JON*****

Jones is going to be the Dalvin Cook of 2018

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

injured?

Myles Crowe*****

lol

RC FISCHER****

The idiot team that thought Peyton barber was worth a roster spot...they like Ronald Jones.

JON*****

Not that great but will be fed and be annoyingly good for fantasy

ENDER*****

They also took Jameis #1

KATZ*****

And they still start Jameis

KATZ*****

On purpose

RC FISCHER****

And retained Dirk Koetter

#39 CHI selects OC James Daniels, Iowa

ENDER*****

Bucs taking RB?

Myles Crowe*****

How much does DeSean Jackson have in the tank?

XAVIER CROMARTIE**** has joined the room.

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Guice, CB, G

JON*****

When are we likely to start seeing receivers start coming off the board?

Myles Crowe*****

Sorely need a corner behind Brent Grimes.

ENDER*****

Could be Reid

Myles Crowe*****

late 30's through mid 40's?

Myles Crowe*****

Isaiah Oliver?

KATZ*****

And they take a satellite back that is slow and not explosive

Myles Crowe*****

Duh, totally forgot about that position.

ENDER*****

Woof

Myles Crowe*****

Slow my butt! :P He ran a 4.4 something at like 70% health and not wanting to push top gear after returning from a hammy injury

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

he's like Joseph Randle

RC FISCHER****

After Corbett...the teams are totally butchering their drafts.

KATZ*****

He shouldn't have run at his pro day if he wasn't healthy

RC FISCHER****

Ron Jones a nice interior runner in college that wont be a great interior runner in the NFL...terrible east-west

ENDER*****

Actually kind of liked Jones the first time I saw his tape

Myles Crowe*****

I think he's way more than Joseph Randle. He'll be one of my targets in dynasty.

KATZ*****

I guess more NFL teams are wise to RC's anti Derrius Guice stance

KATZ*****

He was pretty much the consensus RB2 in this draft an we've already seen 3 RBs go before him (after Barkley)

KATZ*****

He was pretty much the consensus RB2 in this draft an we've already seen 3 RBs go before him (after Barkley)

Myles Crowe*****

Gonna play Daniels at G.

JON*****

I'm meh on Jones

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

announced as center

ENDER*****

Word is Guice lied about teams asking him inappropriate questions then gave 3 different accounts when interviewed about it

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

whitehair can move to G

Myles Crowe*****

and apparently Guice poutingly ditched the draft last night after not being selected.

ENDER*****

Yeah it's confirmed he left

RC FISCHER****

Boy, the Bears O-Line to go with the weapons...what a green light for fantasy

Myles Crowe*****

either way it's some nice Center-Guard flexibility.

KATZ*****

I love Trubisky this year as my late round QB

KATZ*****

I love ARob this year

KATZ*****

I love Trey Burton, obviously

RC FISCHER****

You cannot not seriously take Ronald Jones #38 in an NFL draft in this era...it's stupid on top of stupid

Myles Crowe*****

Trying to decide if it's smart for me to flip Tarik Cohen for a future 1st as soon as he has a few good game or hold him.

RC FISCHER****

Sorry, I'm furious at what has happened before Daniels pick. What a waste of an opportunity at what the draft is for.

ENDER*****

Ronald Jones not good for wins but could be good for fantasy

KATZ*****

I'm with RC tonight

JON*****

I think Tarik is going to be a legit fantasy contributor

KATZ*****

Yeah I like Ronald for fantasy

RC FISCHER****

Ronald Jones and Nick Chubb this high on those teams is like taking a high draft pick and setting it on fire.

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Broncos can get Josh Jackson

KATZ*****

I might like him more than Sony Michel

Myles Crowe*****

What happened before Daniels' pick?

KATZ*****

The Bucs have no real competition

KATZ*****

Payton Barber? Get out of here

#38 TB selects RB Ronald Jones, USC

A waste of a pick for me -- an good interior runner for college and won;t be such in the NFL.

============================

RC FISCHER****:

Darrius Leonard 4.70 40-time -- and 4.63 shuttle, 7.37 three-cone (pro day)

XAVIER CROMARTIE****:

Mewhort is getting kicked to the curb

Myles Crowe*****:

I might've gone with Connor Williams over Braden but I can't complain about wanting to keep an ambulance from visiting Luck

#37 IND selects OG Braden Smith, Auburn

A very average OG prospect...not worth this pick.

#36 IND selects LB Darrius Leonard, SC State

A prospect worth a look, but so much talent passed up.

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Colts sitting there mad

ENDER*****

This isn't a great draft as far as top end talent for them to grab "the greatest draft ever" It's a very solid 4 guys though

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Colts can get Guice though

Myles Crowe*****

Baker approves of that pick should Hyde get injured. Sucky pick for dynasty/fantasy people though. Kinda like Penny to going to Seattle with Chris Carson.

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Colts also need LB badly.

ENDER*****

Oh guys he has a high ceiling because he doesn't fumble!

JON*****

Greatest draft in the sense of making the best possible picks

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

maybe Lorenzo Carter time

ENDER*****

Yeah this is a linebacker

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

LB and RB

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

or WR

Myles Crowe*****

LB or RB.... IMO...... or one of the 2 corners...... or a big target at WR

ENDER*****

Oh yeah corner makes sense

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Josh Jackson always a good choice

Myles Crowe*****

Mayock borrowing stuff from Deion Sanders' closet?

#35 CLE select RB Nick Chubb, Georgia

This makes no sense to me. Chubb is fine but with all the other needs and opportunities...

===================

XAVIER CROMARTIE****:

giants will hernandez

ENDER*****:

Giants RAN to take Hernandez

RC FISCHER****:

Solid pick. The O-Line is very solid stable. The WR group is nice. QB is set. RBs good. TEs workable.

Myles Crowe*****:

Darreus Guice

Myles Crowe*****:

jk

ENDER*****:

Come on Cleveland take Sutton

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

rip Hyde

JON*****

Wow

ENDER*****

Solid I guess

ENDER*****

They haven't made an egregious mistake

JON*****

But the greatest draft in modern history gone though now

Myles Crowe*****

I was thinking O-line then RB so that works out. :)

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Colts sitting there mad

ENDER*****

This isn't a great draft as far as top end talent for them to grab "the greatest draft ever" It's a very solid 4 guys though

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Colts can get Guice though

Myles Crowe*****

Baker approves of that pick should Hyde get injured. Sucky pick for dynasty/fantasy people though. Kinda like Penny to going to Seattle with Chris Carson.

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Colts also need LB badly.

ENDER*****

Oh guys he has a high ceiling because he doesn't fumble!

#34 NYG selects OG Will Hernandez, UTEP

One of my top 10 guys in the draft. The Giants are having a pretty sweet draft.

=====================

#33 CLE Selects OG Austin Corbett, Nevada

RC FISCHER****

OK, so #33 Browns take who?

JON*****

But are they actually going to do that RC?

Myles Crowe*****

I find the Miami TE to be underrated. Chris Herndon. Wouldn't be surprised if he became a better pro than Mark Andrews.

ENDER*****

Phillips

RC FISCHER****

Coley/Ogunjobi make DT not as much a need for me if I am CLE

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Might want to get their OL before NYG

ENDER*****

Not sure they like Coley

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Coley is not good

RC FISCHER****

I think this is Harold Landry

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

makes no sense

ENDER*****

Teams don

Myles Crowe*****

I'd look to aid Baker by going Daniels/Williams/Hernandez..... paired with Ronald Jones or Chubb.

ENDER*****

don't like Landry

Myles Crowe*****

Who's Cleveland's backup if Hyde goes down?.... or who's splitting reps with him? They need that guy here soon.

RC FISCHER****

Hyde/Duke...RB not a pressing need. RB not worth forcing higher.

ENDER*****

Maybe Hill or Hall

Myles Crowe*****

Duke not a load carrier if Hyde gets hurt.

RC FISCHER****

Hyde backup...about 50 guys kicking around the league

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

how did the Cards do when DJ went down

ENDER*****

Dorsey can take Freeman later at RB

RC FISCHER****

How did they do when he was healthy

Myles Crowe*****

Browns have so few glaring needs that they can afford to get a great back in a couple picks. That offense is screwed if Hyde goes down and defenses can load up against Baker

ENDER*****

To be fair Xavier they tried to put in AP...

================

7:06pmET

ENDER*****:

Btw what are the Ravens doing with Jackson? They still owe Flacco sooo much money

RC FISCHER****:

When this chat box starts going grey say the word and we'll jump to the next one

XAVIER CROMARTIE****:

they've already paid a lot of it

JON*****:

They've been astute getting him 1 year ahead

ENDER*****:

If they cut him this year its 16mil cap hit. 8 million next year. Can't get out free until 2020

XAVIER CROMARTIE****:

besides they make up any dead cap with ticket sales for people actually going to Ravens games

RC FISCHER****:

New GM getting ready to go spread offense 2019?

RC FISCHER****:

Ravens

ENDER*****:

But what do you do with Flacco?

XAVIER CROMARTIE****:

eat the dead cap for 2 years

JON*****:

Just take him out the back door, then lock it and wave through the window..

ENDER*****:

Ouch

RC FISCHER****:

Trade or dump Flacco with new head coach. The Ravens stadium is half empty when they were scrapping for the playoffs late last year

ENDER*****:

Just shoot Old Yeller then lol

ENDER*****:

Nobody is trading for Flacco at that age and price

XAVIER CROMARTIE****:

better to pay $8m for nothing than give Flacco $28m

ENDER*****:

Guess that's the plan. Cut him next year

RC FISCHER****:

Sam Bradford says you're never too old or bad to get $10-15-20M a year from an NFL team

Myles Crowe***** has joined the room.

RC FISCHER****:

Jay Cutler's 2017 ears just perked up

ENDER*****:

Did Goodell just mispronounce Ladainian Tomlinson?

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6:58pmET

RC FISCHER*****

Browns aside...who are your 2-3 'best available' (regardless of position) to be taken today?

JON*****

The Browns taking Mayfield last night got me out of my seat whooping, I can't believe they actually did the right thing..

Myles Crowe*****

I would want something with these 2 picks that really strengthens a particular unit.

Myles Crowe*****

or 2 units.

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Mason Rudolph is out there

JON*****

I'm intrigued about whether someone is moving up for Rudolph or whether he drops to New England at 43

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Chargers

Myles Crowe*****

Forgot about Hernandez, him too..... although I think Connor Williams could make for the better center.

ENDER*****

Hernandez is going to be a Giant

JON*****

Only really Denver, Miami, New York, New England and the Chargers in play for Rudolph for me

Myles Crowe*****

Saquan approves that comment

6:55pmET:

Myles Crowe*****

On the Guice front, I heard he left the draft last night and went home after not being drafted in round 1? is that true?

RC FISCHER*****

Myles, do me a favor a do the change name to the lower right--go all caps so it shows better when I copy & paste. Thanks

JON*****

So are the Browns already "your Browns" now?

ENDER*****

Schrager is lamenting that Josh Allen had the worst day of any prospect...umm did you forget Tunsil?

JON*****

it's 23:50 here

RC FISCHER*****

Midnight to 5am run for you tonight...if you fall asleep during it's cool

JON*****

I read a lot of your stuff and I haven't fallen asleep yet

RC FISCHER*****

Xavier -- Bitonio to Left Tackle if they drafted Hernandez or Daniels?

JON*****

Mike Mayock might do it though Zzzzzz

RC FISCHER*****

I am not down with the Browns until Hue Jackson is gone

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

they might have to do that

JON*****

Surely Jackson will get the 2nd year franchise QB push like Fischer and Fox

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Tyrell Crosby and Geron Christian look like the only options that could be a left tackle

ENDER*****

Hue is as good as gone

JON*****

A lot of the guys in my fantasy leagues are asking whether the Colts are taking a RB at the top of the 2nd

RC FISCHER*****

Let me just place names then -- if the Browns get Josh Jackson + Hernandez/Daniels let's say for exact names -- would this be the greatest draft you can recall...the Browns 2018?

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Josh Jackson alone does it

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

Ward/Jackson would be like the Jags secondary

Myles Crowe*****

That's tough RC. I'd love to give Cleveland an edge rusher to allow Ogbah to kick inside in nickel. So maybe a Harold Landry if the health is ok. Throw Connor Williams into the O-line to really solidify that interior unit. Maybe an Isaiah Oliver or Josh Jackson. Would love a DT here but I don't see the value. Or maybe a dynamic back like a Ronald Jones.

RC FISCHER*****

Browns aside...who are your 2-3 'best available' (regardless of position) to be taken today?

JON*****

The Browns taking Mayfield last night got me out of my seat whooping, I can't believe they actually did the right thing..

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6:38pmET: The first question I am posing to the draft chat group tonight...

"We may never see a draft as great as what the Browns could produce tonight...and most of it circumstantial (high picks from being bad/trades...4 of first 35 picks). Who are the two players they take at #33 and #35 to add to Mayfield-Ward to make this the greatest draft in the past decade...or do you disagree with the possibility of this as a 'greatest draft'?"

RC FISCHER*****:

Was there Derrius Guice new news today on the off field? 

ENDER*****:

Word is he lied about teams asking him about his sexuality and if his mother was a prostitute

ENDER*****:

And when they asked him about it for the investigation he told 3 different stories

RC FISCHER*****:

Like I said about Guice last night...

ENDER*****:

Guice is Marshawn Lynch in so many ways

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RC FISCHER*****:

Question for the group: "We may never see a draft as great as what the Browns could produce tonight...and most of it circumstantial (high picks from being bad/trades...4 of first 35 picks). Who are the two players they take at #33 and #35 to add to Mayfield-Ward to make this the greatest draft in the past decade...or do you disagree with the possibility of this as a 'greatest draft'?"

ENDER*****:

Phillips and Sutton

XAVIER CROMARTIE****:

Josh Jackson and Maurice Hurst

ENDER*****:

Those two would make this the single best draft haul I've ever seen

ENDER*****:

I like Jackson but are they taking another corner?

XAVIER CROMARTIE****:

they are probably taking an OT with one of them unless Hernandez is too appealing

RC FISCHER*****:

Xavier -- what would you say they need the most now roster-wise in your expert view of them?

XAVIER CROMARTIE****:

left tackle

RC FISCHER*****:

Rankins then?

XAVIER CROMARTIE****:

he's a guard

RC FISCHER*****:

Daniels for flexibility?

ENDER*****:

Rankins has some injury concerns too

ENDER*****:

And they may be willing to roll with Coleman

XAVIER CROMARTIE****:

Crosby might be the top OT on the board

RC FISCHER*****:

Or Hernandez for great at being just guard?

RC FISCHER*****:

Crosby in that discussion. I'm not a huge fan but he's good.

ENDER*****:

Their guards are good already

XAVIER CROMARTIE****:

they could trade out of the pick also

ENDER*****:

Yeah trading the second one is likely

RC FISCHER*****

If OT most need, what is next...? Another CB? Best available OLB like Landry?

ENDER*****

I still think they go DT

XAVIER CROMARTIE****

3-tech DL

Myles Crowe*****

On the Guice front, I heard he left the draft last night and went home after not being drafted in round 1? is that true?

6:24pmET: My best available to start Round Two...

#1 Mason Rudolph

#3 Harold Landry

#4 Courtland Sutton

#11 James Daniels

#13 Luke Falk

#14 Josh Jackson

#16 Daniel O'Daniel

#18 Harrison Phillips

#19 Dallas Goedert

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R.C. Fischer is an NFL Draft analyst for College Football Metrics, and a football projections analyst and writer for Fantasy Football Metrics. 

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