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2019 NFL Combine Streaming Notes: Day 2 (QB, WR, TE) *Update 4:58pm

Air Date:
March 2, 2019

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4:52pmET: We're done with the offense, now onto the defense tomorrow and Monday.

This has become the D.K. Metcalf hype day, which is neat for fantasy because a ton of guys about to go under the radar. So many WRs were beautiful in the early group and now they are squelched by Metcalf hype.

Metcalf is a physical freak, but how he'll roll in the NFL...?? Josh Gordon or Julio Jones or Kevin White? I'll be studying it this week, one of the first if not first scouting reports among WRs.

See you tomorrow for the defense!

4:30pmET: Wow...a big change on Andy Isabella's official time. He was clocked at 4.56 on his first attempt, and everyone was shocked...well, he just got an official 4.31 40-time on it.

4:24pmET: The whole Group Two is being dominated by fawning over D.K. Metcalf's speed/body, and rightfully so. It's like that year Jadeveon Clowney was the physical freak center of the universe his draft year.

It's either people talking about Metcalf as a WR more than just 'the body'...or talk of Kyler Murray going #1 overall, which is becoming a forgone conclusion. Kyler skipping drills...might be because he knows exactly where he is going...#1 to Arizona.

4:00pmET: I'm about 13 hours of Combine watching, and started to fade in attention span...but then I heard Steve Smith (former CAR WR) on NFL Network talking about the Jason Witten comeback, and the guys were goading him on coming back and Smith said, "You really want to know why Witten is coming back?" And they tried to stifle him but he couldn't help it...eventually Smith said something like, "Hey, at least I'm good on TV...I don't need to comeback."

3:35pmET: All the WR unofficial times in the 40:

40 (1) 40 (2) PLAYER COLLEGE

DNP DNP Arcega-Whiteside, J.J. Stanford

4.47 4.42 Boykin, Miles Notre Dame

DNP DNP Brady, Tyre Marshall

4.57 4.50 Brown, A.J. Mississippi

DNP DNP Brown, Marquise Oklahoma

DNP DNP Butler, Emmanuel Northern Arizona

4.49 4.50 Butler, Hakeem Iowa St.

4.32 4.37 Campbell, Parris Ohio St.

4.51 4.54 Custis, Jamal Syracuse

DNP DNP Davis, Felton Michigan St.

DNP DNP Davis, Ryan Auburn

4.41 4.51 Dixon, Johnnie Ohio St.

DNP DNP Dortch, Greg Wake Forest

DNP DNP Doss, Keelan Cal Davis

4.46 4.43 Dulin, Ashton Malone University (Ohio)

4.55 4.59 Durante, Jovon Florida Atlantic

4.50 4.46 Ferguson, Jazz Northwestern St. (LA)

4.58 4.62 Fulgham, Travis Old Dominion

4.60 4.55 Godwin, Terry Georgia

4.40 4.39 Hall, Emanuel Missouri

4.36 4.34 Hardman, Mecole Georgia

4.61 4.64 Harmon, Kelvin N.C. State

4.59 4.54 Harry, N'Keal Arizona State

4.79 4.75 Humphrey, Lil'Jordan Texas

DNP DNP Hurd, Jalen Baylor

4.56 4.46 Isabella, Andy Massachusetts

4.47 4.43 Jennings, Gary West Virginia

DNP DNP Johnson, Anthony Buffalo

4.55 4.52 Johnson, Bisi Colorado St.

4.56 4.53 Johnson, Diontae Toledo

4.61 4.64 Johnson, KeeSean Fresno St.

4.57 4.56 Lodge, DaMarkus Mississippi

4.36 4.39 McLaurin, Terry Ohio St.

4.33 4.38 Metcalf, D.K. Mississippi

4.67 4.64 Meyers, Jakobi N.C. State

4.47 4.47 Mitchell, Dillon Oregon

4.53 4.58 Morgan, Stanley Nebraska

4.70 4.64 Murray, Nyqwan Florida St.

4.59 4.63 Renfrow, Hunter Clemson

4.61 4.59 Ridley, Riley Georgia

4.50 4.49 Samuel, Deebo South Carolina

4.57 4.59 Sills, David West Virginia

4.40 4.42 Slayton, Darius Auburn

4.48 4.50 Smith, Jaylen Louisville

4.58 4.59 Thompson, Cody Toledo

4.71 4.63 Way, Jamarius South Alabama

4.58 4.46 Wesley, Alex Northern Colorado

DNP DNP Wesley, Antoine Texas Tech

3:14pmET: Another winner this day...flying very much under the radar...Notre Dame WR Miles Boykin. He ran a 4.42 at 6'4"/220 along with a stunning 43.5" vertical and 11'8" broad jump.

3:06pmET: D.K. Metcalf just locked in his #1 WR draft stock with a 4.33 40-time at 6'3"/228. He should skip the receiving drills and just go home now. He can only fall from here.

2:12pmET: Tight End three-cone, vertical, and broad top 3s...

VERTICAL:

39.5" = Fant

37.5" = Hockenson

36.5" = Moreau, Warring

BROAD:

10'7" = Fant

10'3" = Hockenson

10'2" = Warring

THREE CONE:

6.81 = Fant (HELLO)

7.02 = Hockenson

7.08 = Kaden Smith

Fant has become the clear winner of the tight end group and then you can argue about how to rank/slot the next 5-10 TEs. Hockeson is more athletic than I thought he would be, but also a lot smaller frame/legs...I just don't like what I see with TJH, but he's better/more athletic than I thought; for sure. I'd take Foster Moreau over TJH all day. Warring too...among others to consider.

1:55pmET: Quick reaction 'winners' and 'losers' from WR-QB Group One and the Tight Ends...

WINNERS (so many great WRs it's hard to choose five here)

1) N'Keal Harry -- The WR that sent everyone into a tizzy with athleticism measurables way better than anyone predicted (except me).

2) Noah Fant -- People knew he was athletic, but it's like NFL people just realized it.

3) Parris Campbell -- So fast...

4) A.J. Brown -- a monster, a physique to kill for...showing great hands.

5) Tyree Jackson -- a 4.59 40-time and he's just such a presence on the field. He should be a top 30-50 pick, but not sure he will.

LOSERS

1) Lil'Jordan Humphrey -- will be lucky to be drafted

2) Drew Lock -- he hasn't done anything wrong...just no one is talking about him at all. He's not drawing attention.

3) Dwayne Haskins -- looking at him compared to the other QBs, he just doesn't 'look' the part. The NFL analysts are acting like he's all that exists here (the opposite of Lock for analyst attention), but Haskins was slow running/moving and shows a pretty unimpressive physique next to the other guys. You wouldn't think he's a top QB prospect just watching all this with the sound off...but the NFL analysts kept telling you it is true/a given.

4) Kelvin Harmon -- I like him, but two 40-times run in the 4.6s with all these other guys so big and so fast...Harmon may get left in the dust.

5) Hakeem Butler -- Not a bad 'loser', per se. But I wanted him to just show out, but he's had a couple drops...worrying scouts on his hands despite his awesome height/reach.

1:24pmET: So many stellar performances, so it's hard to pick out 'winners', but the one name everyone is buzzing on the most...N'Keal Harry as moving from top 100 player to top 25.

1:05pmET: Unofficial times from WR Group ...

DNP DNP Arcega-Whiteside, J.J. Stanford

4.47 4.42 Boykin, Miles Notre Dame

DNP Brady, Tyre Marshall

4.57 4.50 Brown, A.J. Mississippi

DNP DNP Brown, Marquise Oklahoma

DNP DNP Butler, Emmanuel Northern Arizona

4.49 4.50 Butler, Hakeem Iowa St.

4.32 4.37 Campbell, Parris Ohio St.

4.51 4.54 Custis, Jamal Syracuse

DNP DNP Davis, Felton Michigan St.

DNP DNP Davis, Ryan Auburn

4.41 4.51 Dixon, Johnnie Ohio St.

DNP DNP Dortch, Greg Wake Forest

DNP DNP Doss, Keelan Cal Davis

4.46 4.43 Dulin, Ashton Malone University (Ohio)

4.55 4.59 Durante, Jovon Florida Atlantic

4.50 4.46 Ferguson, Jazz Northwestern St. (LA)

4.58 4.62 Fulgham, Travis Old Dominion

4.60 4.55 Godwin, Terry Georgia

4.40 4.39 Hall, Emanuel Missouri

4.36 4.34 Hardman, Mecole Georgia

4.61 4.64 Harmon, Kelvin N.C. State

4.59 4.54 Harry, N'Keal Arizona State

4.79 4.75 Humphrey, Lil'Jordan Texas

12:49pmET: Wow...these WRs. 10-20 instant starters from this class. Best WR class of all-time. Deepest. They're all running great times.

The items to note from the 40-times (unofficial)...

-- Hakeem Butler put up a 4.49 at 6'5"/227

-- Parris Campbell the fastest at 4.32. He's got 1st-round potential...being from Ohio State

-- Jamaal Custis ran a 4.51...solid...but it did not look good/fluid if that makes sense.

-- N'Keal Harry moved into 1st-round consideration with a 4.59 with his terrific other measurements...27 bench reps, 38.5" vertical

-- The only WR who hilled himself off...LilJordan Humphries with a 4.79 40-time.

12:20pmET: Here we go...Tyree Jackson runs a 4.59(un)...

12:04pmET: Getting ready for the QBs. My main thing I want to see...if Tyree Jackson runs below 4.65. if so, he's truly the most underrated QB prospect of this group.

11:34amET: Top Official 40-times...

4.50 = Fant...nice

4.56 = Caleb Wilson

4.63 = Irv Smith

4.63 = Josh Oliver

4.66 = Foster Moreau

4.67 = Kahale Warring

4.70 = Alize Mack

4.70 = T.J. Hockenson

11:27amET: Winner from the TE catching drills...

I think my Kahale Warring preview prediction is coming true -- taller than most of the TEs here, and built like Madden Video Game TE, 'good' speed times, and catching passes with ease. Warring is making his move.

11:08amET: Some more impressions of T.J. Hockenson's draft stock...

I really do not understand how TJH is a runaway top 15 overall player or top TE prospect. It's not because he's incompetent, it's more because what you're looking for in him -- you can find it in 5+ other TE prospects here.

He has average speed.

He has the same 6'4" height as most every TE here.

He had a below average bench press (17).

He has one of the smallest arm length and hand size here among the TE prospects -- not problematic sizes, just below average.

His one big thing is 'blocking'. Really? Shorter arms, smaller hands, no high-end speed and skinny legs like a WR. You can teach all of those 'big guys' with decent speed to block. You can't teach them to be bigger or faster or have longer arms, per se.

Fant and Smith are better, more rare species TE prospects...different than the other 'traditional' ones.

I'd argue among the 6'4" height range, 4.65+ 40-time, traditional TEs that teams could consider Alize Mack, Foster Moreau, Josh Oliver, Dax Raymond, Drew Sample, Jake Sternberger, Tommy Sweeney, and Kahale Warring as the same/better prospects at a MUCH better draft price.

Without running our scouting models yet, or having the three-cone, what I've previewed the last 2+ months...I take (in no particular order) Fant, Smith, Moreau, Mack, Warring for sure ahead of Hockenson. Oliver, Raymond, Sample are right there for me too. Dawson Knox might be in the argument too.

Why would I reach for Hockenson in the 1st-round? Blocking? It's silly, but I GUARANTEE the NFL takes him top 20...they love over-drafting BLOCKING tight ends. And the Patriots go to ANOTHER Super Bowl not having top 20 picks ever.

10:56amET: I love the coaches explaining the drills to the players, and then they end it with 'everyone in' and "1-2-3 ___"...like "1-2-3 TEs" was the break the huddle moment just now. Where else in life do we end a meeting with this? Why are people still doing this? There's no unity...the players barely mumble/regurgitate the chant because they realize how utterly stupid it is to do.

I don't sit with my wife and meet about the kids or finances or 'what's for dinner'...and then before she leaves, I tell her to 'bring it in' and then make her say with me in unison, '1-2-3, Parents!'...and then we can depart and go back to our lives.

Imagine doing this after every staff meeting at work?

10:47amET: Unofficial times from the TE 40-yard dashes...

40 (1) 40 (2) PLAYER COLLEGE

4.96 4.98 Blanton, Kendall Missouri

4.76 4.77 Brown, Keenen Texas St.

DNP DNP Conrad, C.J. Kentucky

4.51 4.55 Fant, Noah Iowa

4.92 4.91 Gentry, Zach Michigan

4.90 4.98 Helm, Daniel Duke

4.71 4.75 Hockenson, T.J. Iowa

DNP DNP Knox, Dawson Mississippi

4.71 4.73 Mack, Alize Notre Dame

4.66 4.70 Moreau, Foster LSU

4.92 4.99 Nauta, Isaac Georgia

4.64 4.71 Oliver, Josh San Jose St.

4.73 4.76 Raymond, Dax Utah St.

4.74 4.72 Sample, Drew Washington

4.64 4.71 Smith, Irv Alabama

4.94 4.93 Smith, Kaden Stanford

4.76 4.78 Sternberger, Jace Texas A&M

4.84 4.86 Sweeney, Tommy Boston College

4.69 4.67 Warring, Kahale San Diego St.

4.89 4.95 Wesco, Trevon West Virginia

4.50 4.58 Wilson, Caleb UCLA

10:33amET: More from the TE 40s...

My guy, Kahale Warring...4.69, which is good...but...man...is he sculpted. A Greek god for his arms.

Fant ran 4.55 2nd time around. Hockenson 4.75.

Caleb Wilson was listed 4.50 40-time, but the machine had broke and they were going off hand times. I bet it's 4.6+ in reality.

10:23amET: More from the 1st 40-times...

Good bye Isaac Nauta...from five-star high school TE to up-and-down college player to 'sleeper'...to put a final nail in the coffin -- a 4.92 40-time.

Irv Smith ran a 4.64 40-time...not bad. Looked like he got off to a slow start. Might go 4.5s next.

Most 'shocking' to me so far...Josh Oliver is thick, and ran a smooth, graceful 4.64.

10:17amET:

Noah Fant hit 4.51 40-time on his 1st try. Very good, but I was hoping for 4.4s, but 4.51 is fine.

T.J. Hockenson 4.71 40-time is OK. I thought he might be closer to 4.80. His three-cone looms large.

10:02am: Combine Day One…Where I was ‘Right’, Where I was ‘Wrong’

Looking back on the workout day for the running backs…

RIGHT = I said this is the worst RB prospect group I’ve seen, in my previews, in years…probably the worst in a decade of doing this – and it is…as a whole. Woof.

The 40-times and three-cones were, overall, embarrassing.

Bryce Love and Josh Jacobs ‘win’ by not even participating. Let NFL people use their gut on guys the already pre-liked…and they will convince themselves of anything.

WRONG = I thought Alex Barnes was an average RB prospect, one no one would care about. Ummm…he’s like the only hope now from the Combine group. My first RB scouting report coming is a deeper look at Alex Barnes. I started the process last night…yep…getting on the Barnes express. There’s a lot to learn that was hiding (in plain sight) here.

RIGHT = I’m glad I didn’t buy into Elijah Holyfield. Talk about a crash and burn. I wasn’t impressed in my preview but I didn’t think it was ‘this’ bad.

It’s OK, some team will draft him because ‘they know football players’ from looking at them (i.e. they played in the SEC).

If he was Elijah LaRue, son of the famous Domino’s Pizza ‘boxer’, he would be a UDFA in 2019.

WRONG = I would have bet money Trayveon Williams was going to have the best three-cone of the group…he almost had the worst. So bad that it makes me wonder if something went wrong with the timer. I mean…the fullback prospect/tugboat guy ran better agility times. Impossible. But we have to trust the numbers to some degree here. It for sure takes me from ‘Trayveon is best in class’ to ‘maybe a sleeper/maybe not’.

RIGHT = I cannot prove this, but I would go to my grave on this statement…the best RB in the 2019 class would be Josh Adams, Notre Dame…a guy not drafted in 2018. That’s a slam at this group of prospects and a nod to how great Adams is…and a reminder how flawed NFL scouting is.


9:15amET: Getting ready to watch the passing game guys. I got like 4 hours of sleep I'm working on, so all those Starbucks gifts along the way this past few weeks/months...coming into play today. Thank you.

The Five Things I'm most interested in today...

1) Noah Fant's measurables...will we really see 4.5s or better and a sub 7.0 three-cone?

2) Jamal Custis's 40-time and three-cone (if he's participating)...can he get himself on the map.

3) T.J. Hockenson's 40-time and three-cone...is at weaker or better than I thought. I've been slamming him, but today I might get my comeuppance.

4) N'Keal Harry's 40-time and three-cone...if they come in well, he's the top guy here most likely. 27 bench reps from a WR (already did the bench)...sick, if he can run around 4.55 and get under 7.10 three-cine.

5) Hakeem Butler's 40-time...the main challenger to Harry for #1 WR in the class, in my mind, at this point.

FYI:

*Dynasty Offseason/Best Ball (DO/BB) rankings updated last night. If you have the FFM App, every time we update, you’ll get a notification (if you enabled notifications).

I have 10-11 rookies in the mix as well, the top names, just for a ball park idea (at this stage). They are on team ‘RK’ if you want to search for them.

PPR+4pts per pass TD rank option added last night. Next up...the non-PPR ranks/valuations.


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